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The Corn Belt’s Sweeping Drought Could Result In Steeper Grocery Store Prices

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#1 ONLINE   Bill

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:00 PM

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Due to what many experts are calling one of the worst droughts this country has seen in decades, consumers could start seeing the effects of the Midwest's damaged grain crops reflected in their grocery store receipts. But don't stockpile corn flakes — it's more likely prices will go up for meat and dairy products.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 40% of the corn planted in America is in poor or very poor condition, in stark contrast to 11% at this time last year, notes CNNMoney. Those kinds of conditions present the potential for food inflation, say experts, as the prices for feed go up for the livestock we eat.

There's been a 50% spike in the prices of corn futures over the last month. Usually for every 50% jump in those prices, food prices go up around 1% overall. But some food categories are harder hit than others, says Richard Volpe, an economist for the Economic Research Service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Beef, pork and poultry prices will likely jump the most, as corn is what is mostly used to feed cattle, pigs and chicken. Before the drought hit, analysts thought retail beef prices would have a minor uptick of 4% to 6%, but now everything is changing as the drought lingers. Those prices could instead rice about 10%, with a jump from an average of $4.35 per pound in 2011 to an average of almost $4.80 per pound this year.

Consumers shouldn't worry about an overnight price hike, however, as the trickle down effect after crops are harvested later this year will prompt changes in prices at the end of 2012 and into early 2013.

"We're in one of those situations where everyone is watching the weather and corn prices from the edge of their seats," Michael Miller, senior vice president of global research for the National Cattlemen's Beef Association told CNNMoney. "This is the first time in a long time that we've had a drought this significant in the Corn Belt, and that's why the market is so nervous."

Products like boxes of corn flakes won't likely go up, as those rates are mostly impacted by packaging, processing, advertising, transportation and the like. A 49% jump in corn futures will usually only result in an increase of around 0.5% in the product's price.


As Chuck has been telling us for a while now.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:06 PM

I will predict that this drought will be much worse ,price wise than the last big one . Back then the U.S. maintained massive corn and grain stores and could back any shortage by releaseing that grain into the marketplace . We have sold off or given away those reserves so that prior to this years growing season we had a 7 month supply in reserve as opposed to having 5-6 years in reserve .
This could get ugly

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

I have a great idea..... Stop putting the ethanol in the gasoline. Yes, our gas prices will go up. But, it will free up corn for other uses and cut down on the damage the blankety-blank ethanol is doing to our machinery. And, it will save us a little bit of money on the fuel additives that we would no longer have to buy because we're not using ethanol gas. Win-win!! :yes:

Edited by Ralph, 18 July 2012 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

Couldn't agree with you more Ralph . 40.6 % of the corn grown in the U.S. is being used for ethanol . Unbelievable .

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:03 PM

How much of that ethanol is going into our gasoline? I do believe there are other more valid uses for ethanol.... Gasoline being one of the worst uses.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:50 PM

How much of that ethanol is going into our gasoline? I do believe there are other more valid uses for ethanol.... Gasoline being one of the worst uses.

According to the USDA all of that 40.6 % . That is the amount being diverted for automobile fuel .

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:49 AM

According to the USDA all of that 40.6 % . That is the amount being diverted for automobile fuel .


Ouch!! That's gotta be bad for our food supply/prices in so many ways.

And, like I wrote earlier, bad for our machinery. Good for the industry that makes the additives that we're buying now because the ethanol is in our gasoline.

And, I recall a story that I read a while ago that the ethanol from corn really doesn't help our energy situation much because it takes so much energy in farm equipment & related machinery to harvest the corn crop & get it into our gasoline. Not nearly the benefit that it would seem. Plus, the ethanol gasoline does not burn as efficiently. Probably just a way to throw money at certain groups.....
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:26 AM

Even green "guru" Al Gore has said ethanol was a bad idea ,uses more energy to create it than it gives off .
But when has a bad idea ever stopped the government from pursueing something ?

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:29 AM

Even green "guru" Al Gore has said ethanol was a bad idea ,uses more energy to create it than it gives off .
But when has a bad idea ever stopped the government from pursueing something ?


Especially when there are votes to be bought.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:26 AM

. . . .
And, I recall a story that I read a while ago that the ethanol from corn really doesn't help our energy situation much because it takes so much energy in farm equipment & related machinery to harvest the corn crop & get it into our gasoline. Not nearly the benefit that it would seem. Plus, the ethanol gasoline does not burn as efficiently. Probably just a way to throw money at certain groups.....

Yup, you have no idea, . - Unless you have spent time in Iowa you can not even begin to grasp it.

Most automated anything I ever saw was a farmer owned, alcohol co-op. - Trucks pulled in, dumped the corn then drove up to a kiosk to pick up their receipt. - Funds direct deposited while the plant churned out alcohol w/ no human intervention and the engineering vitals online.
Way less hassle for the farmers than the messy old way that depended on the vagaries of the market.

For as long as Iowa remains a "swing state" alcohol is here to stay. - Unless, of course, it is not cane derived alcohol from Brazil
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