May 16
Hundreds of same-sex couples in California are making wedding plans, trying to take advantage of what could be a short-lived ruling lifting the ban on gay marriages in that state….
Tell me again, why should I care if gays or lesbians marry? How does it affect me? My god is ok with it, yours isn’t?
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I am not ok with it. I would like to have more than one husband…why can’t I have that? One could be my grounds keeper…one could be Mr. Fix it in the house, one could be an auto mechanic, one could go out and earn the living and then there could be Mr. Good time Charlie that takes me out on the town! Oh and of course I would like one in charge of all child care and household chores.
I would like 6 husbands please. Let’s get a ruling passed on that.
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Wach, I am for you finding whatever particular calculus of partners which makes your and their lives complete.
If you need 7 husbands, and 4 wives, I am all for it. I think once this floodgate has ben opened, there is no closing it at an arbitrary number.
Personally, I find dealing with one woman to be jsut about all I can handle. Any guy who wants a harem, more power to him and god bless him, because he is a better man than I!
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two women (mother and daughter) are more than enough in this house…when the hormones are flying; the men take cover.
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Wow, wach. Six husbands? That’s a lot of meat loaf.
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lol! sure is!
Hey Ron, I posted some pasta sauce recipes with you in mind. I hope you like pasta. I’ll also be posting a recipe for a quick lasagna casserole…just for you!
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I have yet to find a woman who would complain of too much meat loaf!
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That depends on if that “meat loaf” is out cutting the grass or watching sports all day.
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I think Wach is trying to get across, there is a guy that cuts the grass, and there is a guy that…uh….works nights. Watching ESPN all day might not be outside of his job description.
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Is this about polygamy or about gay marriage? There is a BIG difference, you know.
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But I digress.
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Went past Main & Church last evening (Thursday) and saw the protesters out on the corner protesting gay rights. I was hoping I might be able to meet Alonzo Barnes but no one knew who he was.
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The right Rev. Julian Raven was there passing out the ‘new’ Elmira newspaper we’ve heard so much about. Called “The Elmira Protester” the first issue has to do with Raven’s challenge to Mayor Tonello for a debate on homosexuality on Saturday, June 7th at noon at Wisner Park. That date must be the date of the next “Gay Pride Day” ?
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WhatEVER. I seriously doubt Mayor Tonello will answer that one so I hope Raven doesn’t hold his breath. On the OTHER hand, perhaps that would be as interesting as the proposed debate! You suppose?
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Anyway, the paper is ok but nothing we haven’t seen issue forth on the same topic from Raven’s computer on the SG chats at least 100 times.
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Gay marriage? It really doesn’t bother me. Roughly 10 to 15% of the population is homosexual and I see no reason to deny those folks of the right to own property together, have inheritance rights, rights of survivorship, be included on insurance, etc. It is the militants that I don’t like but then I don’t like militancy in much of anything.
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I realize that some believe homosexuality is a sin but the Bible doesn’t specifically mention homosexuality so far as I know and those perfect people who are without sin of any kind may line up on the right and feel free to cast the first stone.
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What I DO see in the Bible is ‘hate the sin but love the sinner’……so give them their human rights already.
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This is about changing the definition of marriage as we know it.
All hell is about to break loose.
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Well Nina, the bible I follow, the Bible of Bill, has absolutely nothing against marriage of any sort, between consenting people of a mature enough age to know what they are getting into. Be it homosexual, polygamous, or what not. It is all good.
If my god is ok with it, why should this reverend raven be all upset over it?
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“All hell is about to break loose.”
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There is no doubt about that but I seriously doubt that same sex marriage will be the cause.
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Marriage is a human institution created by man for the primary purpose of establishing inheritance rights. The church got involved and decided to put the ’seal’ of God upon it.
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With the current divorce rate nearing 50% can it really get much worse?
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A lot of same sex unions have outlasted heterosexual unions. So give those folks the same rights that other unions have!
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I don’t see this as a religious issue. I see it as a civil rights issue.
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Considering all of the awful things people do to one another, I believe God is probably more concerned about torture, genocide, man starving man, man torturing other creatures, people not getting along and not helping one another, etc. than He is about committed loving couplings.
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Raven is involved because he is an ignorant controller…a zealot. His name is apt, don’t you think? Raving?
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I’ve changed my mind. I no longer want 6 husbands; I would like a husband and a wife (but not for the reasons one might think.) A husband to do the man stuff, kill the bugs and wine/dine me. The “wife” will stay home to cook, clean,go for groceries and cart the teenager around whenever she needs a ride to practice or to the mall with 6 of her closest friends. My wife will be the on-call babysitter to care for the baby when the teenager is “busy” and I must dash off to get my nails done or go on a date with the husband! Sounds perfect!
Nina, have you ever tried “Eve” brand cigarettes? They are so pretty with little flowers around the filter! They are hard to find. A friend of my grandmother when I was growing up used to smoke them, they were very long (120’s). She had beautiful long red finger nails and was very glamorous like a Liz Taylor type.
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Ah, Wach, you want a secondary wife, a very common occurrence in the Muslim faith. Once the first wife dies, the second wife ascends in primacy.
Another term for her is ‘Scut Monkey”, all the nasty jobs fall on her shoulders, while the first wife is pampered.
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but, she wouldn’t be my husband’s wife, she would be MY wife…I am his wife but I want my own “wife” to do all the junk I don’t like to do. If I die, well, then, I guess she is a widow; or would there have to be a new term made up for that, like widowee if you are a wife to a wife and the boss wife kicks the bucket. It’s going to get tricky…
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Trianary marriage.
So you are saying our husband woudl not have an marital privileges with your wife?
Would he be married to her also, or is it just you who is married to her?
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hmmm, good question. She would just be my wife; like a worker bee. He’d have to get his own husband, one that would do all of his yard work and spider killing, then he and I (the primary couple) could just go out and play.
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Yes, but lets say, you are out for the day, and they are home, and he has an itch that needs to be scratched. Would you mind if she scratched it?
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Well…that depends on whether or not he would mind if I got scratched by the other husband…maybe the four of us could work out a schedule where we just switch-o change-o among the 4 people, that way there would always be two on to do the work, and 2 to have free time. It would sort of be a marriage bunch!
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Works for me.
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Methinks what wach is looking for is a live-in maid with a gardener husband.
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And that is related to same sex marriage…..how?
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Busted…
Nina, what about the Eves?
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People decide to marry for an infinite number of reasons. Most of which would be valid (If not so sorrowfully short lived).
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Nina,
Through all of this tom foolery is the notion that legalizing gay marriage will inevitably open the door for other marriage requests. Once marriage has been redefined, who are “they” to deny the wishes of someone that would like to have both a husband and a wife?
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Threesome marriages….isn’t that what you were saying above?
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People will always ask for something they don’t have. That has nothing to do with denying 10 to 15% of the population the civil rights that the rest of us enjoy.
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Re: Eve…..Why do you ask?
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In a previous post you spoke of cigarettes…just wondered if you ever tried these; they seem so glamorous! When the girls in college were smoking “Marlboros” I wanted Eves!
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The problem of homosexuality is a complex one and needs to be addressed as such. Many years ago when I was a child (I am 42) sodomy was illegal. We all know it is the main sex act of homosexuals, therefore, homosexuality was also illegal. Since the legalization of sodomy, the idea of homosexuality gained wider acceptance. Sodomy, once considered a crime, is familiar sounding because its name comes from the biblical town of “Sodom and Gomorrah” which was destroyed by God in the Old Testament for their sins: (mainly “sodomy” ie. homosexuality). The book of Revelation says in Chap 21: verse 8.”But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Sexual immorality is condemned. We all know that any sex outside of marriage is sexual immorality. That is why homosexuals want their unions to be called “marriage”. No amount of word-play is going to change the facts. Homosexuality is the sin of sodomy which has historically been recognized as a crime because it was first known as the sin of sodomy. All laws are based on God’s law. Remember the Ten Commandments? They used to be posted in all courthouses. They still are in the Supreme Court. This should answer the question of whether homosexuality is condemned by the Bible.
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You can quote whatever passage you want, and I can quote you from the directions to assemble my lawnmower, it means the same thing to the each of us.
My gods, have absolutely no problem with any form of marriage, between any number or sex of people. In fact, they are quite tolerant of all sorts of behavior. Mine is not controlling gods, but they are loving gods. Maybe, you need to look into a different god, if yours has such problems with basic human drives.
Wouldn’t it be pretty sad, if you lived your whole life by this gods teachings, then finally found out you happened to get caught up with the wrong one, the one who was supposed to be god for dogs, or snails or something?
It would be a laugh out loud moment, I hope you have a sense of humor.
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im gay . and im getting married very soon .. why do yall say its wrong?? because you think it is cuz of your religion? well guess what there are over 6,000 other religions out there .what makes you think yours is right ?
we all live for the same thing happiness. why cant we be happy? but whatever . im getting it voted on again soon . but untill then . i cant asure you im happier than most of you all out there!!
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You go girl! Grab the brass ring when it is your turn, ignore the naysayers.
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